John (3) Livesey


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John (3) Livesey was born in Manchester in 1824 to parents Richard (1) Livesey and his wife Ellen Walmesley. He was christened on July 25th 1824 at St. Mary's Church, Mulberry Street in Manchester, the record naming his mother as "Helen Walmsley" [St. Mary Baptisms Register: Folio 106 (1824), Lancs. County Record Office at Preston]. His birthdate is not wholly legible, but was the 14th of some month, probably July.

The 1841 Census finds him living with his parents and siblings in Vauxhall Gardens in the St. George district of Manchester, and occupied as a labourer.

He married Mary Higgins by Banns at the Parish Church in Collyhurst on April 12th 1846 [Marriage Index: Manchester 20 448, 1846 (June)]. The register describes him as a bachelor and dyer of full age, residing at Collyhurst, and her as a spinster of full age residing at Newtown. His father Richard (1) was a labourer and hers, George Higgins, was a joiner. Both gave their mark rather than a signature. The witnesses were Ralph Townley and Mary (nee Thornley) Townley whose connections are unknown; they had married at Manchester Cathedral on December 28th 1845 [IGI: Batch M097891].

Mary is believed to have been christened at Manchester Cathedral on October 17th 1825, her parents named as George and Elizabeth [IGI: Batch C097894]. The latter source spells the surname as "Higgin".

The 1851 Census finds him living with Mary and their child Ellen (1) in the household of his widowed mother at 4, Vauxhall Street in the St. George district. He was occupied as a dyer, and Mary as a spinner.

The 1861 Census finds him living with Mary and several children at No. 114a, Red Bank in Manchester. He was again occupied as a dyer. One of the children there - Mary Ann (6) - is cited as aged "11" yet had not been with them in the 1851 Census.

The 1871 Census appears to find him living with Mary and several children at 5, Burton Buildings in the St. George district. He was occupied as a cotton dyer. His and Mary's ages are given as "49", possibly an enumeration error. Burton Street is where John (3)'s brother Thomas (1) was also living in 1871.

Mary probably died aged "47" in 1872 [Death Index: Manchester 8d 213, 1872 (June)]] whilst John may have died aged "48" in 1875 [Death Index: Manchester 8d 198, 1875 (Dec)].

His children by Mary Higgins

  1. Ellen (1) Livesey - probably [Birth Index: Manchester 20 563, 1849 (Dec)]
  2. Mary Ann (6) Livesey - born about (perhaps) 1849/50 in Manchester
  3. Ellen (2) Livesey - born about 1852 in Manchester
  4. Elizabeth (3) Livesey - probably [Birth Index: Manchester 8d 226, 1853 (Dec)]
  5. and probably ... John (4) Livesey - born September 11th 1854 in Manchester
  6. Emily (1) Livesey - probably [Birth Index: Manchester 8d 231, 1857 (Sept)]
  7. Walter (2) Livesey - [Birth Index: Manchester 8d 223, 1859 (Dec)]
  8. Jane (1) Livesey - probably [Birth Index: Manchester 8d 207, 1863 (Sept)]
  9. Alice Ann (2) Livesey - born March 12th 1865 [Birth Index: Manchester 8d 225, 1865 (June)]
  10. and possibly others ...

Ellen (1) appears to have been christened at Manchester Cathedral on December 23rd 1849 with her surname spelled as "Livsey" [IGI: Batch C073542]. She was with her parents in the 1851 Census but may have died soon afterwards, as another child Ellen (2) was christened at the Cathedral on May 30th 1852 of parents "John Livesey and Mary" [IGI: Batch C073543].

Mary Ann (6) probably married Frederick William Smith in 1869 [Marriage Index: Manchester 8d 272, 1869 (Sept)]. This couple married at Manchester Cathedral on August 7th 1869 [IGI: Batch M097896]. He was born in Salford around 1846-47. The 1881 Census finds them living with six children in Norman Grove, Beswick where Frederick William was occupied as an umbrella warehouseman. In 1881 Mary Ann (6)'s cousin Richard (3) was also living in Beswick and also occupied as a warehouseman.

Elizabeth (3) married Edward Hamnett in 1872 [Marriage Index: Manchester 8d 181, 1872 (June)]. He was born in Manchester around 1853-54. The 1881 Census finds them living with four children at 15, Back of Burton's Buildings in the St. George district where Edward was occupied as a general labourer. Boarding with them was a widow Emma Allwood and her three children. The 1891 Census finds them living with eight children at 145, Collyhurst Road in North Manchester where Edward was again occupied as a general labourer. The 1901 Census finds them living with five children at the same address. Edward was now occupied as a tarpaulin maker and Elizabeth (3) as a marker-off at a dye works. A few doors away, a George Hamnett - probably Edward's brother - was engaged in exactly the same occupation as she was.

John (4) was christened at St. Thomas Ardwick, Manchester on January 14th 1855 [IGI: Batch C033231].

Emily (1) was with her parents in the 1861 and 1871 Censuses. Extensive searches have failed to disclose anything more about her after 1871.

Walter (2) married in 1878 to either Sarah Jane Johnson or Sarah Jane Dawson [Marriage Index: Prestwich 8d 413, 1878 (March)]. The 1881 Census finds them with two children living at 9, Bratt Street in the St. George district, where he was occupied as a labourer in a tarpaulin works. The 1891 Census finds them with five children living at 25, Bebbington Street in the St. George district, where he was occupied as a labourer. The 1901 Census finds them living with four children at the same address with Walter (2) now occupied as a labourer in a tarpaulin works.

Jane (1) and Alice Ann (2) were both christened at St. Thomas Ardwick on June 25th 1865 [IGI: Batch C033231]. The latter source also gives their birthdates. It is suspected that Jane (1) died in childhood, as she was not with her parents in the 1871 Census. The same may be true of John (4).

The 1881 Census finds Alice Ann (2) aged "17" living in the household of a labourer Thomas Williamson at 21, High Park Road in North Meols, Southport where she was occupied as a servant. In 1884 she married George Rimmer [Marriage Index: Ormskirk 8b 1045, 1884 (Sept)]. He was born in Southport around 1861-62 and was very probably related to a Rimmer family who, in 1881, had been living just a few doors away from Alice at 13, High Park Road. The 1891 Census finds them living with three children at 8, Bedford Road in Birkdale, Lancashire where George was occupied as a plasterer. The 1901 Census finds them living with seven children at 112, Cemetery Road in Southport where George was occupied as a plasterer and slater (employer). A Rootsweb thread for the Rimmer surname contains an indication that their son Edward - born after 1901 - arrived in Australia at age 7, so they may well have accompanied him.